Two Camps On the Sane Side

So, this morning there is the "we're fucked" camp and the "we'll be fine camp". I honestly hope the "we'll be fine" camp is right, but I don't see it. I want nothing more than this fine, amazing, beautiful human being, along with his amazing family and staff to be the ones that save the democratic party from itself. Wouldn't that be wonderful? That's what Clinton is inadvertently giving the country the opportunity to do. I'm sure she'll take credit for it if it works, though, and that is no joke. From some folks I love and respect:

Aravosis-

To give some perspective, yesterday, when I got to the meeting, I shot a quick video of the room. It shows just how small the meeting room was and how limited the seating was for attendees. All the hollering and screaming and heckling came from those few people -- and some of them are clearly not representative of the Clinton supporters I know.

The media loves the drama. And, I understand there are strong feelings at play here. But, most Democrats are over it -- or will be soon enough. It's time to stop stirring the pot and rubbing salt in the wounds. Democrats don't want another Bush term.

Cesca in speaking of Taylor Marsh's Lanny Davis-like temper tantrum-

Another indication that the Clinton faction will ultimately split from the Democratic Party. They now have an excuse -- however specious -- to demonize the party itself. To quote Gandalf: "The board is set and the pieces are moving."

The strategy:

1) Target the party as misogynists and election thieves.
2) Continue to paint Senator Obama as a weakling McGovern type.
3) Continue to fight and appear, in contrast, "strong".
4) Split from the party, or conduct an active write-in campaign for November.
5) Pull enough votes away from Senator Obama to give Senator McCain the win.
6) Run again in 2012.

I hope I'm wrong.

Sullivan finds choice quotes from others:

Publius:

The Clinton campaign will treat today's result as illegitimate. Its supporters will follow their lead. And the wounds will get deeper.

Eve Fairbanks reports on the Clinton protesters:

"It's sad. I'm a lifelong Democrat and the party's been taken over by these Obama people who say they want 'change,'" gripes Linda of Horseheads, New York, outside the Marriott as a honking car decorated with a painting of Hillary, a glued-on bust of Cleopatra, and a tampon drives by. Linda, she says, has already gone to the state Board of Elections to learn how to write Hillary's name in in November. "So much has been stolen from her." Justine, a self-described "diehard Democrat" from Greensboro, North Carolina, objects to the write-in idea. "It's gonna help Barack if you don't vote against him," she says.

Matt:

...people who are seriously drawn to Hillary Clinton's plans on health care, climate change but also think they might vote for John McCain in the fall rather than the candidate with plans that are very similar to Clinton's are being a bit confused. People who are seriously drawn to Clinton on feminist grounds but are considering staying home in the fall so McCain can replace John Paul Stevens with another justice in the mold of Alito or Roberts really need to think harder.

Meteor Blades must read:

I’m not prescient or plugged-in enough to have any special window on how many of you Clinton supporters who are saying you will vote for John McCain in November will come to your senses by then. Many people I respect think that most of you will. I suspect they’re right. I hope they are. But it’s obvious that more than a handful of you are serious in your vindicativeness and will join Joe Lieberman to support the Senator from Arizona over Obama. That would be the anti-choice, hundred-year-war, two-faced, Republican Senator from Arizona.

Thus is born a new subspecies, McCain Democrats, McCainocrats.

If your shrieking can be believed, you McCainocrats are premeditating ballot support for an exclusive club of racist, union-busting, woman-suppressing, bedroom-peering, rights-scoffing, warmongering, torture-backing, buccaneering, global warming-denying, privatizing, public land-grabbing, Supreme Court stuffing, empire-building, Constitution-shredding raptors. All for self-indulgent revenge. You’re unhappy that your candidate has not won the nomination. I understand that. Mine didn’t win either. But you’re not just unhappy, you're also willing to contribute to the election of someone who stands against most of what your candidate has been promoted as standing for. That, I don’t comprehend at all. Emotionally, intellectually or morally. I get the feeling you would vote for George W. Bush in 2008 if the 22nd Amendment weren’t in the way.

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You McCainocrats don’t run in a direct lineage from all these ancestors. For one thing, they had issues, many of them unlikable, even detestable, but understandable. You, however, clearly have no guiding philosophy beyond surly revenge. John McCain can’t possibly give you what you want if what you really want is what you say Senator Clinton has been in the running for this year. Only on the margins does he contravene the rightwing cabal that over time seized the party and has now left it in disarray. His discernible stances on almost everything of note are, or should be, anathema to any Democrat who is a Democrat. Much of the rest of his views are just contradictory meandering. When he opens his mouth, you never know which side he will speak from.
I’m no fan of third parties because history shows only one making the leap to even the lower rungs of national power. But I can at least understand voters who jump ship to a third party based on principle and symbolism and hope for a breakthrough in a direction amicable to their beliefs. You McCainocrats, on the other hand, are incomprehensible. Is the idea that voting for another four years of rightwing Republican rule would be worth it as long as you could say: "See? We told you Obama couldn’t win." Does the McCainocrat lunacy embrace the idea that four more years of a Republican in the White House would make Clinton a shoo-in for 2012?
If that’s what your telling me, if you’re willing to force the American people to suffer for your chance to say nah-nah-nah, I’ll have two words for you when you come around looking for my support for any candidate or any cause in 2012 or any other time in the future: Bite me.

All I know is if you fucking idiots don't think that this is going to look horrible for the democrats, the country, the species, and you personally in the way of written and oral history, you're flat out fucking wrong. Go find your fucking meds, go talk to your therapist, go get fucked, go on a vacation, whatever it takes to get you to realize the fact that you're destroying something you claim to love, and it'll be you who caused the greatest hope this nation has seen in a very long time to be beaten by a 72 year old war mongering, fear mongering, hypocritical, dangerous, white asshole; and if you pull the McSame lever, there will be blood on your hands. However, I'm holding out hope that those on the other side will see the light, even if you can't. That Obama will win with the support of many republican's even if a few hundred thousand fringe Clinton loonies won't vote for him out of your sad, bitter, spite. I hope for it to be a landslide anyway, and you'll have to live the rest of your pissy life knowing you missed the one of the greatest goddamn boats in the history of this country.

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